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	<title>Comments on: Bloomberg&#8217;s Says Fatties Not Welcome in NYC</title>
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		<title>By: organicneedle</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>organicneedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...a Jewish Nazi...only in NY.  I see your point Rob...but there are all kinds of regulations as to what private businesses are allowed to use and serve.    What about the trans fat is sacred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;a Jewish Nazi&#8230;only in NY.  I see your point Rob&#8230;but there are all kinds of regulations as to what private businesses are allowed to use and serve.    What about the trans fat is sacred?</p>
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		<title>By: robj98168</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>robj98168</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting calories and nutrition is one thing, but I think your mayor is a nazi- it is totally wrong to go into a private business and tell them they what they can or cannot use in their food. This is one reason why I won't go to NYC. Well that and the damn yankees!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting calories and nutrition is one thing, but I think your mayor is a nazi- it is totally wrong to go into a private business and tell them they what they can or cannot use in their food. This is one reason why I won&#8217;t go to NYC. Well that and the damn yankees!</p>
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		<title>By: organicneedle</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>organicneedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well.. . it depends how you look at it.  By people having to spend more of their hard earned money on health care costs  incurred by other people's choices you are in essence taking away their freedom to spend their money on other things.  The smoking ban was done not so much to protect smoker's health, but to protect those around the smokers...to protect their freedom to breath clean air.  I understand the resistance to Big Brotherism...but I think when you look at the whole picture you see that these measures protect freedom too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well.. . it depends how you look at it.  By people having to spend more of their hard earned money on health care costs  incurred by other people&#8217;s choices you are in essence taking away their freedom to spend their money on other things.  The smoking ban was done not so much to protect smoker&#8217;s health, but to protect those around the smokers&#8230;to protect their freedom to breath clean air.  I understand the resistance to Big Brotherism&#8230;but I think when you look at the whole picture you see that these measures protect freedom too.</p>
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		<title>By: Po</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Po</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don't understand why people care if others are healthy or not.  The only reason I can think of it because they think it raises their health care costs.  Which is a really stupid reason for taking peoples freedoms away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand why people care if others are healthy or not.  The only reason I can think of it because they think it raises their health care costs.  Which is a really stupid reason for taking peoples freedoms away.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the Bunk study stating 2/3 of doctors in America want National Health Care. The doctors who did this study also conducted one in 2002 and found that the majority of doctors did not want national health care, the problem with this is that the 2 question surveys drastically differ in there 2nd question. I found this article,  &lt;a href="http://jaajoe.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=39&#38;Itemid=28#jc_allComments" rel="nofollow"&gt;60% of Physicians Surveyed Oppose Switching to a National Health Care Plan&lt;/a&gt;,  It's worth a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see the Bunk study stating 2/3 of doctors in America want National Health Care. The doctors who did this study also conducted one in 2002 and found that the majority of doctors did not want national health care, the problem with this is that the 2 question surveys drastically differ in there 2nd question. I found this article,  <a href="http://jaajoe.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=39&amp;Itemid=28#jc_allComments" rel="nofollow">60% of Physicians Surveyed Oppose Switching to a National Health Care Plan</a>,  It&#8217;s worth a read.</p>
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		<title>By: CindyW</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>CindyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am two hearted about posting calories. It's unfair for small businesses to shoulder the cost of reprinting menus. On the other hand, for the social greater good, it is a FANTASTIC idea! 600 calories would stop me from stuffing the whole cinnabun into my mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am two hearted about posting calories. It&#8217;s unfair for small businesses to shoulder the cost of reprinting menus. On the other hand, for the social greater good, it is a FANTASTIC idea! 600 calories would stop me from stuffing the whole cinnabun into my mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: organicneedle</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>organicneedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They do allow for all smoking clubs...like cigar clubs.  The problem with allowing some bars to have smoking and some not is that all bar owners want the smoking...the employees don't.  It is still a worker rights issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do allow for all smoking clubs&#8230;like cigar clubs.  The problem with allowing some bars to have smoking and some not is that all bar owners want the smoking&#8230;the employees don&#8217;t.  It is still a worker rights issues.</p>
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		<title>By: heather t</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>heather t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the smoking ban, but I wonder if it would be such a bad thing to make allowances for specific, licensed all-smoking bars, like smoking lounges or something. Governments provide a limited number of  liquor licenses to sell alcohol, why not offer a small number of smoking lounge licenses? 

That way, we non-smokers don't have to deal with that crap and the smokers will stop whining. (maybe)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the smoking ban, but I wonder if it would be such a bad thing to make allowances for specific, licensed all-smoking bars, like smoking lounges or something. Governments provide a limited number of  liquor licenses to sell alcohol, why not offer a small number of smoking lounge licenses? </p>
<p>That way, we non-smokers don&#8217;t have to deal with that crap and the smokers will stop whining. (maybe)</p>
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		<title>By: arduous</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>arduous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it has to be on the menu itself? It can't just be on a sign in the restaurant? I didn't realize that.

The reason I'm mixed on the trans-fat is because that *does* feel the most Nanny State-ish to me. Unlike the calorie requirement, which is just giving the customer the info, or the smoking ban, which affects non-smokers/asthmatics etc who work in/patronize bars etc because of the second-hand smoke, the trans fat really only directly affects the eater, and it sort of is a dictate, of "I'm going to tell you what to eat." Yeah trans fats are bad. So are sodas. On my site, there's currently a banana debate. What if the government decided to ban restaurants from carrying bananas because they wanted to support local food? 

I dunno. Personally I try not to eat any trans-fats. And there are a lot of good reasons for the trans-fat ban too. I guess this is why I'm mixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it has to be on the menu itself? It can&#8217;t just be on a sign in the restaurant? I didn&#8217;t realize that.</p>
<p>The reason I&#8217;m mixed on the trans-fat is because that *does* feel the most Nanny State-ish to me. Unlike the calorie requirement, which is just giving the customer the info, or the smoking ban, which affects non-smokers/asthmatics etc who work in/patronize bars etc because of the second-hand smoke, the trans fat really only directly affects the eater, and it sort of is a dictate, of &#8220;I&#8217;m going to tell you what to eat.&#8221; Yeah trans fats are bad. So are sodas. On my site, there&#8217;s currently a banana debate. What if the government decided to ban restaurants from carrying bananas because they wanted to support local food? </p>
<p>I dunno. Personally I try not to eat any trans-fats. And there are a lot of good reasons for the trans-fat ban too. I guess this is why I&#8217;m mixed.</p>
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		<title>By: organicneedle</title>
		<link>http://organicneedle.com/blog/2008/06/11/bloombergs-says-fatties-not-welcome-in-nyc/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>organicneedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hardship for smaller chains is having  to pay for the actual calorie research and paying for the updated menus.  

In what way are you mixed about trans fat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hardship for smaller chains is having  to pay for the actual calorie research and paying for the updated menus.  </p>
<p>In what way are you mixed about trans fat?</p>
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